{"id":1152,"date":"2008-12-01T13:23:36","date_gmt":"2008-12-01T13:23:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wiki.davelevy.info\/?p=1152"},"modified":"2023-12-24T17:13:22","modified_gmt":"2023-12-24T17:13:22","slug":"neverwinter-nights-playing-a-paladin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/neverwinter-nights-playing-a-paladin\/","title":{"rendered":"NWN Playing a Paladin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This article has links to the Bioware forums which are now broken. See <a href=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/bioware-community-forums-v1\/\">BiowareCommunity Forums V1<\/a>.It is the notes a made when running through the game the first time. I chose a Paladin and took some bad advice. I am really not sure about running the first four levels as a fighter to get the bastard sword proficiency. The Paladin is not as tasty as I expected from V1 rules. (See below).<\/p>\n<p>This needs the full size images uploaded.<!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>Getting Help<\/h3>\n<p>GameFAQs has an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamefaqs.com\/computer\/doswin\/game\/188666.html\">NWN Page<\/a> which has a Paladin Guide. It might be nice to put it up here with hyperlinks etc. to make it easier to read, but I&#8217;m not sure of the legality or manners.<em> I never found the time.<\/em><\/p>\n<h3>Top Tips<\/h3>\n<p><b>Lord Zero<\/b>, the author, has some advice on starting attributes, the most important of which is start with high <b>Charisma<\/b>. He didn&#8217;t empasis the need to have a high <strong>WIS<\/strong>dom for the spell bonuses. The other two top tips are:-<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Dual Class with Fighter, to get the <b>Discipline<\/b> skill &amp; <b>Exotic Weapons<\/b> which is a feat, which permits the Bastard Sword. This is good because, it hurts your enemies, and can be used with one hand and so you can use a shield as well. There are some good magic bastard swords around, including <i>Nameless Light<\/i>, seeming the closest thing to the <b>&#8220;Holy Avenger&#8221;<\/b>. However, it seems that this is <b>not<\/b> available in the OC. Lord Zero recommends 16\/4 Paladin\/Fighter.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t get that high and I need to find out how the Paladin aquires spells (see <a href=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/neverwinter-nights-playing-a-paladin#att\">About Attributes<\/a> below, as I seem to be missing a few at the end. I wonder if the order in which one aquires the levels is important. (No, thats not the problem.)<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Use a Bastard Sword &#8211; we&#8217;ll see<\/li>\n<li>Get the Kinslayer from the forge in Chapter 1. You won&#8217;t regret it.<\/li>\n<li><i>Nypmh&#8217;s Cloaks<\/i> enhance charisma, the Paladin&#8217;s prime attribute, which is leveraged under v3.5 rules. They&#8217;re on sale at most stores.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1258\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1258\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/templeoftyr-late.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1258\" src=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/templeoftyr-late-300x240.png\" alt=\"Chanita\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/templeoftyr-late-300x240.png 300w, https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/templeoftyr-late-1024x819.png 1024w, https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/templeoftyr-late.png 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1258\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Chanita the Paladin, returns to the Temple of Tyr late in the Game<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I used a Bastard Sword from the point that I got the Exotic Weapons feat, I occasionally fell back on the <i>Kinslayer<\/i>, as it was capable of more damage and also caused fire damage.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Kinslayer is a two handed sword and so just excellent. I am not sure of Lord Zero&#8217;s advice, it seems to me a waste of levels,, I&#8217;d have been better off with am extra four levels of Paladin, and the exotic weapons don&#8217;t turn up. Basically, Paladin&#8217;s arn&#8217;t as kick arse as in the V1 rules.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3>About Attributes<a name=\"att\"><\/a><\/h3>\n<p>I found that I had less spells then I expected as the Paladin approached the higher levels. I asked at the Bioware Forums and started a thread called Help in understanding how to build a Paladin which explains how Wisdom impacts the ability to earn spells, both enhancing the number of spells\/level and constraining the levels you can learn. (I should have remembered some of this from the earlier rules!)<\/p>\n<p>In summary, you need a <b>WIS<\/b> of 14 to get the full spell complement, if you have less you fail to get bonuses amd fail to be able to learn 3rd and\/or 4th level spells. I am now unsure if the advice about taking four levels of <b>fighter<\/b> is any good as you loose three levels of Paladin and hence three levels of spells.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve never played a Paladin under these attribute allocation rules and so have never been restricted in this way before.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3>Henchman<\/h3>\n<p>I prefer to pick one and keep them, so they maximise their level growth with me. It seems to me that the two best might be<\/p>\n<h4>Linu La&#8217;Neral<\/h4>\n<p>the elven cleric, because she can heal or<\/p>\n<h4>Sharwyn the Bard<\/h4>\n<p>Her song will enhance the player character, unfortunately, she&#8217;s <b>very<\/b> weak and dies a lot ( at lower levels), even when told to attack with her bow &amp; spells. She also uses a spear, which looks terrible.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1270\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1270\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/buffingup.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1270\" src=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/buffingup-300x240.png\" alt=\"Chanita &amp; Sharwyn buff up\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/buffingup-300x240.png 300w, https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/buffingup-1024x819.png 1024w, https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/buffingup.png 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1270\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Chanita and Sharwyn buff up<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>However, her quest yields a belt of charisma &#8211; very nice for my Paladin. She has healing spells as well so quite good. She&#8217;s getting better as she acquires more spells, I&#8217;ve noticed Bull&#8217;s strength, which is good for a Paladin, since strength is low to yield the Charisma. (See also <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/nwn-henchmen#sharwyn\">NWN Henchman, Sharwyn<\/a><\/span>.) I used the <a href=\"http:\/\/nwvault.ign.com\/View.php?view=Hakpaks.Detail&amp;id=4510\">Henchman Inventory &amp; Battle AI mod v1.07<\/a> which allows one to have a better control of your henchman&#8217;s tactics, actions and inventory. I found that she used scrolls rapidly and became a major asset in casting some pretty high level scrolls, including planar binding, which summoned a <i>Death Slaad<\/i>. Her song towards the end is also a major asset.<\/p>\n<h3>Top Item<\/h3>\n<p>I got the Scabbard of Bless and Aid, which was <strong>very<\/strong> useful.<\/p>\n<h3>Top Fights<\/h3>\n<p>The most difficult fights for me were <i>Rimardo Domine &amp; his Iron Golem<\/i>, although some of the other fights in the <b>Host Tower<\/b> were also a bit tricky, and <i>Brother Toras<\/i>, in the <b>Arcane Brotherhood Tomb<\/b> outside Luskan. Interesting that these were undertaken at a point where the four levels of fighter might be denying me some extra Paladin feats, skills and spells.<\/p>\n<p><i>Morag<\/i> herself, wasn&#8217;t really hard, although I lost Sharwyn at this point, a tragic but heroic death!<\/p>\n<p><i>King Oubold Many-Arrows<\/i> was easy and so was the <i>Green Dragon<\/i> and the Balors, I wonder if I&#8217;ll find them so easy as a Bard or Wizard.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/deadgreendragon.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1260\" src=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/deadgreendragon-300x240.png\" alt=\"deadgreendragon\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/deadgreendragon-300x240.png 300w, https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/deadgreendragon-1024x819.png 1024w, https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/12\/deadgreendragon.png 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>See I did kill the Green Dragon! (See also <a href=\"https:\/\/davelevy.info\/wiki\/nwn-walkthroughs#dragons\">my walkthrough about the dragons<\/a> where I discuss the &#8220;good path&#8221; and suggest killing Akulatraxas, the green dragon for the XP.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This article has links to the Bioware forums which are now broken. See BiowareCommunity Forums V1.It is the notes a made when running through the game the first time. I chose a Paladin and took some bad advice. 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